[BoonDr]

I am sitting here thinking about the situation in the AFC and thinking "man there is a lot of turmoil" in the teams the Pats have been battling as of late.

Jets- all the bloviating and baseless arrogance has backfired into an ugly internal dispute

Colts- Irsay is straight blowing that shit up and signs are pointing to Manning being gone soon.

Steelers- probably the least serious of the bunch but Ben is publicly questioning the owner about direction of the team. Not exactly a good thing.

Ravens- defense isn't getting any younger, and as I have previously said, Flacco had a decent game against horrible defense and as a result they are going to be stuck with a middle-of-the-pack at best QB for a long time.

All that is good news for the Pats.


-now if Brady was just a few years younger we could take advantage.

[MrMojoRisin]

BoonDr, on January 27 2012, 09:44 AM, said:

I am sitting here thinking about the situation in the AFC and thinking "man there is a lot of turmoil" in the teams the Pats have been battling as of late.

Jets- all the bloviating and baseless arrogance has backfired into an ugly internal dispute

Colts- Irsay is straight blowing that shit up and signs are pointing to Manning being gone soon.

Steelers- probably the least serious of the bunch but Ben is publicly questioning the owner about direction of the team. Not exactly a good thing.

Ravens- defense isn't getting any younger, and as I have previously said, Flacco had a decent game against horrible defense and as a result they are going to be stuck with a middle-of-the-pack at best QB for a long time.

All that is good news for the Pats.


-now if Brady was just a few years younger we could take advantage.

And the Ravens just lost there DC didn't they?

The Colts thing is a damn shame and I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass for many years to come. Irsay said the other day paying Peyton the bonus was not that bid a deal. Okay then STFU about it. They made it pretty clear they are going to draft Luck, they go on a firing spree, and hiring spree, there are cap issues, they got some key free agents out there. This was handled poorly by the organization. Manning may be done in Indy and may be done period but the way all this went down is shitty.

[Sideshow91]

MrMojoRisin, on January 27 2012, 09:53 AM, said:

And the Ravens just lost there DC didn't they?

The Colts thing is a damn shame and I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass for many years to come. Irsay said the other day paying Peyton the bonus was not that bid a deal. Okay then STFU about it. They made it pretty clear they are going to draft Luck, they go on a firing spree, and hiring spree, there are cap issues, they got some key free agents out there. This was handled poorly by the organization. Manning may be done in Indy and may be done period but the way all this went down is shitty.

I was going to make a new thread about this but after reading this one I figured it more appropriate to reply here.

Twist, I have to agree with your take on the Colt's situation after reading this article.

http://espn.go.com/n...public-comments

It is a business, and the fact that Irsay did pay Peyton 29 million, or what ever it was, despite his injury situation does show loyalty on Irsay's part to reward a guy who has meant so much to the organization. And for Peyton to go public and talk about how depressing and cold it is around the organization and to be so outspoken about the Polian situation, was a personal attack on the organization that had gone out of their way to take care of him this season. I keep reading around here that Roethlisberger isn't happy about the team's firing of OC Bruce Arians, yet you haven't heard any public disdain against the Steeler organization, and if he were to come out publically and say something I think he should be criticized.

Maybe that is the whole problem in Indy that these guys (Irsay, Peyton, the Pollians) were so close that any type of split was going to end messy with some mudd slinging.

[MrMojoRisin]

Sideshow91, on January 27 2012, 12:18 PM, said:

I was going to make a new thread about this but after reading this one I figured it more appropriate to reply here.

Twist, I have to agree with your take on the Colt's situation after reading this article.

http://espn.go.com/n...public-comments

It is a business, and the fact that Irsay did pay Peyton 29 million, or what ever it was, despite his injury situation does show loyalty on Irsay's part to reward a guy who has meant so much to the organization. And for Peyton to go public and talk about how depressing and cold it is around the organization and to be so outspoken about the Polian situation, was a personal attack on the organization that had gone out of their way to take care of him this season. I keep reading around here that Roethlisberger isn't happy about the team's firing of OC Bruce Arians, yet you haven't heard any public disdain against the Steeler organization, and if he were to come out publically and say something I think he should be criticized.

Maybe that is the whole problem in Indy that these guys (Irsay, Peyton, the Pollians) were so close that any type of split was going to end messy with some mudd slinging.

I feel it all could have been done with a lot more class. Here is my take, Manning is the face of your organization, he seemed in the dark about a lot of this. I know full well they are not obligated to inform him but if Irsay felt it's no problem to pay him out of respect for what he has done he damn sure could have called him and explained what was going down. I feel had Manning not been blindsided by all this things would have been different.

Mathis and Saturday as well as Wayne are all free agents. We need a DE a C and a WR I would love for BB to snag at least one piece and curb stomp Irsay Andrew and the organization next year.

[Ben6821]

BoonDr, on January 27 2012, 09:44 AM, said:

I am sitting here thinking about the situation in the AFC and thinking "man there is a lot of turmoil" in the teams the Pats have been battling as of late.

Jets- all the bloviating and baseless arrogance has backfired into an ugly internal dispute

Colts- Irsay is straight blowing that shit up and signs are pointing to Manning being gone soon.

Steelers- probably the least serious of the bunch but Ben is publicly questioning the owner about direction of the team. Not exactly a good thing.

Ravens- defense isn't getting any younger, and as I have previously said, Flacco had a decent game against horrible defense and as a result they are going to be stuck with a middle-of-the-pack at best QB for a long time.

All that is good news for the Pats.


-now if Brady was just a few years younger we could take advantage.

yeah I think your partially unspoken pipe dream that the clock has just been reset to 2003, but with less obstacles has a few holes

Indy was never even in the long term picture as currently constituted...they had a major rebuild coming down the pipe in a year or two even with a wholly intact manning (if anything this makes them more likely to reinvigorate faster if Luck pans out or even if not at least they will start building normally again, whereas if they continued to spiral down with Manning they'd have been even worse off (in terms of the state of the other 52 guys) when the alarm was sounded, and probably in no position to draft so well, and thus likely stuck in a post Marino Miami, 6-10 - 8-8 hell cycle)

and where some of the others on your list fall off there will always be new faces to fill the void...most notably the Texans who, if not devastated by injury this year looked to be probably the cream of the AFC, or at least a serious contender. Then you have Cincy and Miami with some potential and well eventually almost by default someone in the AFCW has to not suck...